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. it's important for them to pay back taxes and important to learn english and it's important for them to potentially pay a fine. but to give them the avenue whereby they can resolve their legal status here in this country is very important. >> now, one thing that stuck out to me there is rather than saying path to citizenship he said path to legal status, which is two different things. with citizen ship you can vote and with legal status you can't. for a lot of republicans a sticking point has been that distinction. it was their problem with the dream act, because when you lose latino voters by that large margin, you don't want more latino voters. ann coulter said something at a conference a while back that stuck with me. she said after obama care our biggest issue is immigration because if we allow amnesty the whole country will go the way of california and we will never win a national election again. i think that distinction could be an important one in this battle and sticking point. the other thing is republicans have used the immigration issue in primaries and with their base for
time, "the cycle" begins right now. >>> you know, on second thought, 280 million after taxes so what are we getting all excited about? president obama is meeting with his cabinet at the white house. we'll get the first pictures of that any minute now. earlier today, the president pushed the congress to react on keeping middle class tax rates where they currently stand. >> i'm asking congress to listen to the people who sent us here to serve. i'm asking americans all across the country to make your voice heard. tell members of congress what $2,000 tax hike would mean to you. >> so many people say the president has the upper hand in the debt talks this time around and republicans are starting to show some signs of compromise. >> republicans are willing to put revenue on the table but it's time for the president and democrats to get serious about the spending problem that our country has. but i'm optimistic that we can continue to work together to avert this crisis and sooner rather than later. >> all right. nbc's mike viqueira at the white house. could be one of the last cabinet meetin
small business tax hikes. got to love that one. meantime democrats continue to announce tax hikes. tomorrow senator dick durbin will bill what's major address to lay out the progressive case for a bipartisan deal and later this week the second white house meeting with meetings from both sides of the aisle. joining us is our post tag team bill russert and bloomberg's stephanie ruhle. she rules. unwrap that for us, brother. >> well, they would say the good news is that there has been some movement from senate republicans on the issue of raising taxes. lindsey graham, saxby chambless talking about a tax revenue. medicare, medicaid, perhaps we could have some meaningful entitlement reform. that's the good news, that there seems to be this idea that we can work out a big partisan deal. we both know taxes going up. entitlement, benefits going down. however, when we get into the bad news is that while this is all fine and dandy coming out of the cincinnati, toure. the real negotiations are going to happen between president obama and house speaker john boehner. it's a lot different animal
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